First Plumbline Apologetics

Patricia King states,   :"(http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/orrel30.html)":,   "Recently while teaching at the Glory School in Dudley England. I had a spiritual encounter regarding the Blue Flame of the Lord. In this encounter, I could feel myself soaring like an eagle, looking toward the sun while in flight. Eagles (often biblical symbols of the prophetic in the natural) have an extra membrane over their eyes that other birds do not have this allows them to look directly into the sun without any damage to their vision. As I gazed at the sun, I could feel myself being drawn toward its center and then I saw it - the blue flame. It was so beautiful, I could feel its strength and its passion ... May we gaze mm the fiery love of God. Let us prepare to receive revelation into the deep mysteries of God "(Patricia King). This vision, however, in not original to King, and is replicated exactly in New Age teaching. Listen to an incantation to the ascended master and the "I AM". "I invoke the blue flame which represents the divine power of my father God."
The usual repertoire of gold dust, and precious stones and oil is normal fare for King and her network. Joshua Mills who ministers with King reports of eating gold leaves from the tree of life served up by angels and having a piano that plays by itself.

:"(http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word_pf.html?ID=4601)": ‚   Extreme Prophetic & the blue flame of witchcraft.

Quote from Patricia King:

Patricia King: "THE BLUE FLAME OF THE LORD--DIVINE REVELATION, PASSIONATE LOVE, AND THE ESSENCE OF HEAVEN"

"˜Recently while teaching at Glory School in Dudley, England, with Trevor and Sharon Baker, I had a spiritual encounter regarding the Blue Flame of the Lord. In this encounter, I could feel myself soaring like an eagle, looking upward into the sun while in flight. My eyes were fixed on the sun. Eagles (often a Biblical symbol of the prophetic) in the natural have an extra membrane over their eyes that other birds do not have. This allows them to look directly into the sun without damage to their vision.

As I gazed into the sun, I could feel myself being drawn towards its center, and that is when I saw it"“the Blue Flame. It was so beautiful. I could feel its strength that is to be feared and respected, and also I felt its passion. The Lord gave me three points of understanding and application that I would like to share with you.’ :"(http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2007/11 /20/patricia-king-extreme-prophetic-the-blue-f lame-of-witchcraft/)": ‚   The sun and not the Lord? Are you a sun worshipper? Is this your God, Patricia?

Gnostic and shamanistic rubbish. The blue flame is all over new age and occult and witchcraft thought. :"(http://www.paganlibrary.com/reference/on_hereditary_italian_witchcraft.php)": ‚   In the Aridian Tradition, it is the focal point of the altar. A bowl is placed upon the center of the altar, and is filled with a special liquid, which will burn a blue flame. The appearance of the blue flame represents the presence of Divinity, within the ritual setting. The use of fire as a sacred symbol is one of the most ancient of practices.

Acording to a New Age website they state :"(http://www.sunnyray.org/7rays.htm)": ‚   "The Blue Flame is in the core of the very strength and energy. The first Ray is represented in the power of intent, cause, direction, centralization and unity, and its keynote is will - Divine Will. The basic qualities of the Blue Flame are manifested through the energies of power, strength, faith and protection."

In reference to sacred texts a archive of electronic texts about religion, mythology, legends and folklore, and occult and esoteric topics they state :"(http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/zdm/zdm038.htm)": ‚   "All colors seen in dreams are of good omen, except blue; because, as in the flame, we have observed it consumes and destroys the body beneath it. It is the upas or deadly tree that overshadows the world, and is lethal to everything beneath it. If it be objected that there are angelic beings on high who, along with mankind are equally under the blue flame and yet are not consumed, our reply is that they, as existent beings, are celestial in their essence and, therefore, different from human existences who are to the blue flame what the candle is to the light."

This is also quoted by Patricia King :"(http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word_pf.html?ID=4601)": ‚   "The blue flame is the hottest and most intense part of a fire, and the color blue is often a prophetic symbol of divine revelation, God's love, and an open Heaven."

This has occultism running through it, the problem is Patricia King is trying to Christianise occultic and psudo practices, she states "As I gazed into the sun, I could feel myself being drawn towards its center, and that is when I saw it--the Blue Flame. It was so beautiful. I could feel its strength that is to be feared and respected, and also I felt its passion. The Lord gave me three points of understanding and application that I would like to share with you."

when Patricia King gazed into the sun, this is what we call Sungazing, this is commonly practiced in India, :"(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sungazing)": ‚   According to some of its proponents, sungazing was practiced by many ancients:

"[E]arly cultures of/in Egypt, the Aztecs, the Mayans, Indian Yoga, Native American tribes, Tibetan Yoga, and some traditions of QiGong (aka Qi Gung, Chi Kung), such as BaKua (aka BaGe, BaQi) and Tai Chi."

The Egyptians and other ancient cultures are known to have been sun worshipers, and it is possible that some also sungazed.

By this I would question the spirit Patricia King is off, this is also explained in Kundalini Yoga, this process of kundalini awakening :"(http://www.sungazing.com/652.html)": ‚   "Between 35 and 40 minutes (9-10 months) of sungazing ........ At this point you may also feel awakenings in your charkas as well as possible energy beginning to stir within your kundalini. Each day more energy blockages may be dissolved as you get closer and closer to your knowing your higher self." Patricia King dose not explain how long she had been sun-gazing but people who practice this would have unusual experiances Patricia King in this case has mistakenly claimed this was from God.

Patricia King Quotes Faisal Malick "The blue flame of the Lord represents purity of revelation and wisdom. Revelation is unveiling hidden wisdom in the right season. Secrets are never hidden from God, but by HIM, for us. "

Ok what is ment by hidden wisdom in the Bible ???

Geoffrey Hodson who was a :"(http://www.global.org/Pub/GH_Wisdom_in_the_Bible.asp)": ‚   Liberal Catholic Preist , :"(http://geoffreyhodson.iinet.net.au/)": ‚   Theosophical teacher, mystic and gnostic seer. ‚   :"(http://www.global.org/Pub/GH_Wisdom_in_the_Bible.asp)": ‚   "my hope is that such faith may be strengthened by a deepening understanding of the hidden wisdom contained in the many wonderful books of our Bible."

Patricia King is teaching gnosticism, she states :"(http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word_pf.html?ID=4601)": ‚   "WISDOM IS REVELATION CONCEALED AND REVELATION IS HIDDEN WISDOM REVEALED. When the Kairos time comes for hidden wisdom to be revealed in the earth, the deep of the Father connects with the deep of our spirits, and Holy Spirit impregnates us with revelation knowledge wrapped in the seed of His Word. As a result, hidden wisdom foreordained unto our Glory in Christ is unlocked."

This is another way of saying the Bible has Hidden Knowlege, the Gnostic Society teaches, ‚   :"(http://www.gnosis.org/ecclesia/lect079.htm)": ‚   "We speak wisdom among them that are perfect; yet not the wisdom of this world. But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the world unto our glory. Eye hath not seen nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him. But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit; for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God, that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. The natural man receiveth not the things that are freely given to us of God. The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual discerneth all things; yet he himself is discerned of no man.

Patricia King's understanding of Biblical Texts is very poor and also Patricia King dose speak contrary to the teachings of Paul, as :"(http://www.blueletterbible.org)": ‚   A. R. FAUSSET explained on the subject of The First Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Corinthians "Paul does not mean by the "mystery" or "hidden wisdom" ( 1Cr 2:7 ) some hidden tradition distinct from the Gospel (like the Church of Rome's disciplina arcani and doctrine of reserve), but the unfolding of the treasures of knowledge, once hidden in God's counsels, but now announced to all, which would be intelligently comprehended in proportion as the hearer's inner life became perfectly transformed into the image of Christ. Compare instances of such "mysteries," that is, deeper Christian truths, not preached at Paul's first coming to Corinth, when he confined himself to the fundamental elements ( 1Cr 2:2 ), but now spoken to the "perfect" ( 1Cr 15:51 Rom 11:25 Eph 3:5, 6 ). "Perfect" is used not of absolute perfection, but relatively to "babes," or those less ripe in Christian growth (compare Phl 3:12, 15 , with 1Jo 2:12-14 ). "God" ( 1Cr 2:7 ) is opposed to the world, the apostles to "the princes [great and learned men] of this world" ( 1Cr 2:8 ; compare 1Cr 1:20 ) [BENGEL]."